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I’ll answer your questions for the benefit of all the readers but the first thing I’d say to anyone is to get the right benefits advisor (good list at www.healthrosetta.org/map). If they don’t know have experience doing the items you’ve asked about, they can tap our team who has worked directly in the trenches (with advisors) with over 400 employers doing these things. They can also draw on the Plan Grader™️ report that provides customized guidance. This link goes to the RFP for advisor services

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16NGaSO4KLYLkNhekuAGu6JWnjLTBjVIOTwaQrCnlPlE/edit?usp=drivesdk. Go to www.nautilushealth.org for $4 million (and growing) of open source resources freely available to anyone.

1. Hint Health has created a network of DPC docs that covers a lot of the country. One contract should provide access to it

2. My first advice would be: Don’t fight. Starve (route around them). If you are committed to RBP, Health Rosetta Advisors have access to a bunch of RBP related resources — template letters, etc. [See also #4] This is a draft of a short story that includes how an employer in a single hospital town owned by the 900 lb gorilla in their region avoided their price gouging. Big bloated health systems have more brittle business models than many realize. Starve them and they become more reasonable people. That’s what’s happening there. Of course, every system is different. Most plan members are willing to drive an hour (or more) to the best surgeons/facilities if they’ll pay $0. Read more at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cHmZMsH2U5BAgrsRlMicbg3XHLCgxbDv2SA-qB_qlIk/edit?usp=drivesdk

3. As you’ll read, when carriers/employers try to do the steering, it’s often not received well. However, when an unconflicted nurse who already has established a trusted relationship can help people navigate the clinical, emotional and financial complexities of our goofy system, it absolutely works. For complex scenarios, most people would rather go to Mayo Clinic than their community hospital if it’s high stakes. Hopefully, you’ve read the chapter on Centers of Excellence in my book about the high rates of misdiagnosis for cancer, MSK, cardiometabolic, etc.

4. No need for you to do the direct contracting. There are plenty of alternative networks and approaches that work.

I hope you can join us at RosettaFest. There’ll be 200+ employers there who’ve been doing these things along with the benefits advisors who’ve helped them. They all freely share their battle scars and successes.

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Andrew Adams's avatar

Love this Dave and all the work you and Health Rosetta have done to empower employers to make better decisions for their health plans. For the 100-employee company where I was CFO, I’ve implemented most of these approaches for designing a better, more affordable health plan. These are the areas I still haven’t fully been able to solve: 1) Direct primary care - we have employees across the country, with a concentration in Chicago-land. Also, many of our employees and their families want to keep seeing their trusted family doctors. How do we solve for this? 2) RBP and high cost claimants - we are still running into health systems like Advocate that aggressively balance bill our employees at 350% or 500% of Medicare. How do we fight back? I’m not willing to go to a RBP vendor who charges fees for billed charges but acts as fiduciary because I think the incentives are too misaligned. 3) high cost claimants drive 95%+ spend for our plans. But I’m reluctant to steer employees away from their trusted providers. Can we accomplish the right amount of steerage through plan design? 4) Direct contracting - beyond just DPC, I would love to direct contract with physician offices and health systems. But this is just not feasible at 100 employees - it’s not with the time of the physician offices or health systems and we have very low volume spread across many sites of care.

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