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We need universal health care in the USA. We are the only industrialized nation without it. We have been lied to for generations. Universal health care is far cheaper, far faster, far better than corporate for-profit medicine which we have, which (Harvard study 2009) kills over 45,000 US citizens per year needlessly due to for-profit decisions rather than taking the patient's health into account. The actual damage is far worse including lives shortened and patients maimed for life while the oligarchs sit on their yachts and laugh at us.

Just as the maga-heads are starting to wake up and realize how the Trumpsters have lied to them, so they would hopefully soon wake up and understand that getting affordable, humane health care for themselves, their families, their children is the way to go. Wake up USA! Universal Health Care Now!

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I completely agree regarding cutting corporate profiteering though I also believe that cuts across the board in the US healthcare system are needed. Physician wages are a part of that. As of 2021, the average physician earnings were ranked as follows:

"United States – $316,000

Germany – $183,000

United Kingdom – $138,000

France – $98,000

Italy – $70,000

Spain – $57,000

Brazil – $47,000

Mexico – $12,000

. . .

The average physician net worth (sum of all assets minus debts) was ranked as follows:

United States – $1,742,000

United Kingdom – $657,000

Germany – $441,000

France – $425,000

Italy – $269,000

Spain – $228,000

Brazil – $95,000

Mexico – $67,000"

Source: Bill Loguidice, Physicians Weekly, "How Do US Physician Salaries Compare With Those Abroad?". Sep 27, 2021

Even if we agree US physicians should make more due to the higher cost of training, it would clearly be more efficient/less costly to reduce the cost of training rather than pay 70% more in wages.

I highlight physician wages specifically because the authors or the article referenced are physicians, but the same can be said for the entire healthcare industry from insurance companies to long term care to pharmaceuticals, etc. The article referenced is unfortunately behind a paywall, but I would hope the authors agree.

From a commonwealth fund study comparing healthcare spending in the US to the average of 12 comparator OECD countries:

Component Share of excess spending

U.S. pays more in administrative costs of insurance ~15%

U.S. providers spend more on administrative activities ~15%

U.S. pays more for prescription drugs ~10%

U.S. physicians earn more ~10%

U.S. registered nurses earn more ~5%

U.S. invests more in medical machinery and equipment <5%

Sum of components estimated ~60%

Source: Ani Turner, George Miller, Elise Lowry, The Commonwealth Fund, "High U.S. Health Care Spending: Where Is It All Going?" October 4, 2023

Even if you could somehow cut the excess administrative costs and insurance down to 0 (unlikely!), you're still only cutting half of the 60% excess. The other 30% is in increased prescription drug costs, physician/nurse wages and higher equipment costs.

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